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 When doing LH and RH together, concentrate on which hand? (Invention No. 8)
September 26, 2008, 07:58:17 AM by senunkan
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Hi Everyone,
I just joined this forum want to introduce myself.
I wanted to share some experience about me learning how to play the piano and at the same time I need some advice on whether I am doing is correct.
Firstly, a little background of myself:
I have been playing the classical guitar for about 16 years and can do pieces like Bach's Lute Suite.
Recently I have been introduced to playing the piano by my pianist friends.
Playing the piano really made me have a totally different look at the RH LH coordination.
I am a total beginner when it comes to piano and my teacher are essentially my pianist friends dropping me hints here and there.
In terms of finger strength, my LH is actually stronger than my RH although my master hand is RH.
This the consequence of my guitar playing background, in which the LH does most of the fret pressing, requiring lots of strength and stamina.
I don't own a piano, but intend to get one soon.
Most of the time I can only practise on my table top, imagining the keys and visualising the playing.
About once a week, I will rent a studio for about an hour to do a real practice on the acoustic piano.
Currently, I am working on Bach's 2 part Invention no. 8 in F major.
Based on the recomendation of my pianist friends, I practised each hand separately.
The problem comes when I tried to play together both of the hands.
I discover that my mind wasn't able to consciously control the 2 hand together.
Even when I slowed the tempo to a crawl, I simply could not coordinate the RH and LH.
If I concentrate on the RH, the LH will stop, not knowing what to do and vice versa.
My pianist friend advised me that I need to listen to 2 voices in my head.
Compared to guitar playing, the different voices are usually played by the RH thumbs vs the RH fingers.
It was until one fine day, something strange occurred to me.
Instead of concentrating on the hand with the most notes, I concentrate on the hand playing the lesser number of notes (i.e. of longer duration in note value).
I.e. At the 2nd measure, when the LH comes in I concentrate on the LH, counting 1 n 2 n 3 n, fitting in the LH notes into the rhythm, while letting my RH go on a auto mode, controlled by my subsconscious mind
Then at the 3rd measure, my attention will focus on the RH instead, fitting in those quaver notes and let the LH goes into subconscious auto mode.
Previously I was concentrating at the hand with the more notes, which I didnt manage to make them work together.
Now I and concentrating on the hand with the lesser notes.
My question is what I am doing common to all pianist?
Or am I doing a strange thing?
regards,
Sen
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Invention 8 status
April 29, 2006, 08:18:33 PM by shoshin
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I've memorized and learned to play at speed 12 measures with my RH....should I keep going with my RH until the end (piece is 34 measures)? Or should I start learning the LH now?
Thanks!
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need a plan to learn this Invention
April 22, 2006, 10:16:16 PM by shoshin
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I was going to try Bernhard's method of note dropping for invention 8. One question is I learn the left hand and right hand parts separate, but how many measures do I learn them before I blend them...the whole thing?! or just a section? and how big of a section would it be?
Thanks in advance!
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Bach Invention 8 (2p)
August 04, 2005, 09:21:59 AM by chopinisque
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Hellos again...
I need help identifying the motives in this piece. There seems to be four motives: the opening, the turn-like pattern, the ascending thirds and the alternating notes. Is that correct? Also, some fingerings for the first two lines would be appreciated.
Thanks.
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Bach Invention no. 8 in F major
December 24, 2003, 07:43:15 PM by classical_bluebird
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Hi all,
This is my first post and I have just finished mastering Invention No. 8. Great for hand independance, but took a while though! Any suggestions on the next invention I should tackle after this, or any other baroque alternatives like Haydn?
Thanks and Merry Christmas
Hywel 
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